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the u.s. carbine caliber .30 home mission statement to provide a visual reference of the u.s. carbines, caliber .30, their variations, parts, accessories and more. to assist and encourage new owners, old owners, collectors and researchers to share and exchange information for the purpose of expanding everyone's knowledge. to facilitate communication with one another to collectively further the mutual goals of learning, preserving and sharing the history of the u.s. carbines, caliber .30. introduction work on this website has been ongoing since the summer of 2015. the information and photographs herein have been the fruits of years of research. without the collective work and cooperation of many this website and it's forum could not have happened. the website is an ongoing project. some pages now under construction will be completed over the next few months. it is hoped the website will expand to include additional material, including accessories, magazines, ammunition and more. one of the many goals of the forum is provide a means by which research and knowledge can be pooled. then shared via the website. please feel free to jump in on the forum and help make this endeavor grow. general overview of the history of the u.s. carbines, caliber .30 beginnings "as a result of studies made during world war i it was definitely determined that the hand weapons, the model 1911 pistol and model 1917 revolver, were effective at only short ranges in the hands of the most expert. they were primarily weapons of self defense." "the pistol and revolver being primarily defensive weapons it was the desire of the u.s. forces to equip the soldier normally armed with these weapons with one having more offensive characteristics. it was thought desirable to extend the range on the proposed weapon to at least 300 yards, thus increasing the effectiveness of the soldier armed with sidearm's by at least 200 yards." during the time between the wars the approval and funding for the design of such a weapon could not be obtained. in september 1939 germany and russia invaded poland. two days later france and great britain declared war on germany. "the replacement for the pistol and revolver, now considered to take the form of a light shoulder rifle, was again proposed by the chief of infantry on june 15, 1940 and the development of such a weapon was approved by the secretary of war." "accordingly, on october 1, 1940 the ordnance department published a circular which was in effect an appeal to known gun manufacturers and inventors to submit a gun with the following general characteristics:" weight not to exceed 5 pounds range effective up to 300 yards, semi-automatic fire essential, full automatic fire desirable to be carried by sling or some comparable device chambered for a cartridge of caliber .30 of the winchester self-loading type with a case similar to that of the commercial winchester self-loading cartridge, caliber .32 the deadline set for submissions was may 1941. ["proving ground history of the carbine, caliber .30 m1" by major g.p. grant, u.s. army ordnance dept., 30 sep 1944] winchester's light rifle submission winchester initially decided against an entry due to existing commitments. the deadline had already passed with trials underway when winchester contacted ordnance to advise them of developments during the design of a different project that had convinced winchester they may be able to come up with a submission for the light rifle trials. the poor performance of submissions during the current trials caused ordnance to give winchester the go-a-head, if winchester could produce a submission before the end of the current trials. thirteen days later, 09 aug 1941, winchester presented their first prototype to the ordnance department for preliminary testing. the tests revealed the need for a number of improvements. winchester presented their second prototype to the ordnance department on 14 sep 1941 for the second round of testing. at the completion of the tests the winchester light rifle was adopted as the carbine caliber .30, m1 on 30 sep 1941. winchester had designed and produced the winning submission in seven weeks. winchester's other commitments caused ordnance to enlist the assistance of the inland division of general motors for further improvements to the design. after the production of a number of prototypes and changes to various parts, inland produced the first carbines in june 1942, less than a year after winchester had started the design and less than two years since ordnance's call for submissions. production between june 1942 and august 1945 ten primary u.s. contractors manufactured over 6 million u.s. .30 caliber model m1, m1a1, t4, m2, t3, and m3 carbines. to date, no other firearm manufactured in any country has surpassed the quantity of u.s. 30 caliber carbines manufactured during their 38 months of production. even more amazing is only one of these contractors, winchester, had the machinery, tooling and experience of manufacturing firearms prior to the carbines. manufacturer first production end production total production # months inland manufacturing division, general motors dayton, oh june 1942 august 1945 2,632,097 38+ winchester repeating arms new haven, ct september 1942 august 1945 828,059 35+ underwood elliott fisher company hartford, ct november 1942 april 1944 545,616 17 rock-ola manufacturing chicago, il november 1942 may 1944 228,500 18 irwin-pedersen arms grand rapids, mi january 1943 march 1943 0* 3 quality hardware & machine chicago, il february 1943 april 1944 359,666 14 national postal meter rochester, ny february 1943 april 1944** 413,017 14 standard products port clinton, oh april 1943 april 1944** 247,160 12 saginaw steering gear, general motors saginaw, mi may 1943 april 1944 293,592 11 saginaw steering gear, general motors grand rapids, mi may 1943 january 1944 223,620 9 i.b.m. poughkeepsie, ny august 1943 may 1944 346,500 10 totals: june 1942 august 1945 6,117,827 38+ +: months shown are months of actual production. several dozen carbines (included in the totals) were produced as prototypes before full production started *: all 3,542 carbines produced by irwin-pedersen failed to pass ordnance inspection. their contract and facility was turned over to saginaw steering gear who disassembled the carbines, inspected each part, and integrated the surviving irwin-pedersen parts and receivers into the production of carbines produced by saginaw at grand rapids. **: july 1944 national postal meter as commercial controls completed 239 carbines, standard products completed 150 carbines many original records were lost or destroyed after wwii. no single reliable source has been found for production totals and months of manufacture. as you will see throughout this website a fair amount of what we now know has been provided by the years of research of many, who have cooperated and shared with one another. research is still ongoing by a number of researchers and it is hoped this website and it's forum will serve as a means to foster cooperation, sharing and further research in an effort to better understand and preserve the history of the u.s. carbines caliber .30. during world war ii these carbines were issued to u.s. soldiers in every theater of war around the world. u.s. carbines were also supplied to a number of allies via the lend/lease program during wwii. carbines were smuggled or parachuted to resistance groups in a number of different countries during the war. post wwii after the end of wwii many of the carbines were returned to america where they were inspected, refurbished, and/or rebuilt to the latest standards. many of the carbines did not return to america. instead, they were stockpiled in various countries in case they were needed. with the onset of the korean war in 1950 the u.s. .30 caliber carbines once again served american troops and america's allies. however, during this war the decision was made to offer the .30 calibe

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